{"id":26665,"date":"2023-03-09T11:33:05","date_gmt":"2023-03-09T11:33:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/?p=26665"},"modified":"2023-03-09T11:33:06","modified_gmt":"2023-03-09T11:33:06","slug":"le-marketing-au-mepris-au-mepris-de-la-relation-clients","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/le-marketing-au-mepris-au-mepris-de-la-relation-clients\/","title":{"rendered":"Le marketing au m\u00e9pris au m\u00e9pris de la relation clients."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Peut-\u00eatre aurais-je d\u00fb plut\u00f4t titrer&nbsp;: <em>Le marketing au m\u00e9pris au m\u00e9pris des lois<\/em> \u2026 car il s\u2019agit bien de \u00e7a&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La loi Hamon interdit les cases pr\u00e9-coch\u00e9es par d\u00e9faut&nbsp;; quant au RGPD, il oblige de recueillir le consentement des consommateurs pour utiliser leurs adresses \u00e0 des fins de mailing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Question subsidiaire&nbsp;: existe-t-il des annonceurs privil\u00e9gi\u00e9s au-dessus des lois&nbsp;? \u2026 et de l\u2019\u00e9thique&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Question que l\u2019on pourrait poser par exemple \u00e0 la Compagnie du Mont-Blanc, qui g\u00e8re notamment les remont\u00e9es m\u00e9caniques de Chamonix&nbsp;: petite explication de texte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg\"><img data-attachment-id=\"26666\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/le-marketing-au-mepris-au-mepris-de-la-relation-clients\/20230221_135004\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?fit=441%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"441,360\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;SM-A510F&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1676987404&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"20230221_135004\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?fit=300%2C245&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?fit=441%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?resize=376%2C307\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26666\" width=\"376\" height=\"307\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?w=441&amp;ssl=1 441w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/20230221_135004.jpg?resize=300%2C245&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 376px) 100vw, 376px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Afin d\u2019\u00e9viter la queue matinale aux caisses, j\u2019ach\u00e8te 3 euros pi\u00e8ce, deux badges rechargeables \u00e0 des automates install\u00e9s pr\u00e8s de la t\u00e9l\u00e9cabine des Houches&nbsp;; et donc me voil\u00e0 le mardi matin \u00e0 tapoter sur le terminal qui soudain me propose PAR DEFAUT une assurance \u2013 3,5 euros par personne. Je presse sur le rectangle indiquant que je refuse \u2026 et d\u00e9couvre que malgr\u00e9 tout, on m\u2019a factur\u00e9 7 euros&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le lendemain, je me m\u00e9fie, tapote un peu partout sur le rectangle de refus pour d\u00e9couvrir la minuscule zone interactive, et \u00e9conomise donc 7 euros \u2026 mais la machine me crache un badge compl\u00e9mentaire \u2026 factur\u00e9 3 euros&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le jeudi, l\u2019automate innove et me demande de renseigner mon adresse mail&nbsp;: je cherche \u00e0 zapper \u2026 pas possible, donc je rentre un alias bas\u00e9 sur mon num\u00e9ro de t\u00e9l\u00e9phone&nbsp;; et comme je recommence l\u2019exp\u00e9rience pour recharger le second forfait, il me faut rentrer une autre adresse&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le soir, je prends ma plus belle plume \u2013 enfin mon clavier, c\u2019est juste une image \u2013 et envoie un petit message \u00e0 <a href=\"mailto:info@compagniedumontblanc.fr\">info@compagniedumontblanc.fr<\/a> rappelant&nbsp;que la loi Hamon bannit tout syst\u00e8me de consentement par d\u00e9faut et demandant \u00e0 la fois le remboursement des assurances et du badge inutile que je n\u2019avais pas demand\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>R\u00e9ponse&nbsp;: <em>\u00ab&nbsp;Nous vous invitons \u00e0 renouveler votre demande via notre formulaire de r\u00e9clamation \u00e0 cette adresse : <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/suggestion.compagniedumontblanc.fr\/\"><em>suggestion.compagniedumontblanc.fr\/<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;: pourquoi ne pas simplement transmettre ma r\u00e9clamation&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peut-\u00eatre pour \u00e9viter toute tentative de dialogue plus pouss\u00e9e, puisque la r\u00e9ponse me parvient d\u2019un <a href=\"mailto:noreply.icmb@compagniedumontblanc.fr\">noreply.icmb@compagniedumontblanc.fr<\/a> pas tr\u00e8s causeur&nbsp;; juste un double refus&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Nous avons bien compris votre demande mais nous ne pouvons donner une suite favorable \u00e0 celle-ci. L&rsquo;assurance est propos\u00e9e en option sur la caisse automatique tout comme en caisse lorsque vous achetez vos forfaits aupr\u00e8s des h\u00f4tesses de vente.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Si vous souhaitez un remboursement, je vous invite \u00e0 vous rapprocher de l\u2019assureur directement sur le site <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.e-gloo.eu\/\"><em>https:\/\/www.e-gloo.eu\/<\/em><\/a><em><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Concernant le r\u00e8glement, un affichage r\u00e9glementaire vous informe des tarifs et il vous incombe de v\u00e9rifier que la somme pay\u00e9e correspond bien \u00e0 ce que vous avez choisi lors de votre achat. Vous pouvez \u00e0 tout moment abandonner la transaction si vous avez des doutes ou si celle-ci ne vous convient pas.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Concernant l&rsquo;achat du badge et comme stipul\u00e9 dans nos CGV, celui-ci n&rsquo;est pas remboursable. Si le badge que vous aviez choisi de recharger n&rsquo;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 accept\u00e9 par notre syst\u00e8me c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas valide. Vous aviez alors la possibilit\u00e9 de vous adresser directement en caisse afin que nous puissions le v\u00e9rifier&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quelques jours plus tard, je re\u00e7ois deux mails, un \u00e0 chacune des deux adresses mails que j\u2019avais d\u00fb renseigner sur l\u2019automate m\u2019invitant \u00e0 donner mon avis sur mon exp\u00e9rience \u00e0 <em>Mont-Blanc Natural Resort<\/em>. Non, je n\u2019en profite pas pour me d\u00e9verser en r\u00e9criminations&nbsp;; par contre, je demande \u00e0 <a href=\"mailto:contact@info.avis-montblancnaturalresort.com\">contact@info.avis-montblancnaturalresort.com<\/a> de quelle base de donn\u00e9es de type opt-in mon adresse mail a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9cup\u00e9r\u00e9e et quand ai-je donn\u00e9 mon consentement pour \u00eatre ainsi contact\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pas de r\u00e9ponses, mais juste quelques jours plus tard, de nouveau les m\u00eames mails des fois que j\u2019aurais n\u00e9glig\u00e9 de r\u00e9pondre&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vous me direz que je suis aigri parce que je me suis fait avoir de 10 euros&nbsp;: que nenni, mes lecteurs savent que je suis teigneux&nbsp;! J\u2019ai donc reformul\u00e9 ma demande aupr\u00e8s de <a href=\"mailto:info@compagniedumontblanc.fr\">info@compagniedumontblanc.fr<\/a>, de mani\u00e8re plus directe&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Etant donn\u00e9 que le mail que je viens de recevoir est un noreply ne facilitant pas le dialogue, merci de transmettre ma r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 Antoine Burnet, Directeur Commercial &amp; Marketing [\u2026].<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;La loi Hamon est claire&nbsp;: toute option propos\u00e9e par d\u00e9faut est ill\u00e9gale, donc la vente de l\u2019assurance \u00e9tait trompeuse&nbsp;: merci de me rembourser.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Quant au badge, s\u2019il n\u2019\u00e9tait pas bon, cela signifie que celui achet\u00e9 le lundi \u00e0 la caisse \u00e9tait d\u00e9fectueux&nbsp;: merci de me rembourser&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le lendemain on acceptait ma demande&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Apr\u00e8s v\u00e9rification, il s\u2019av\u00e8re qu\u2019il y avait un dysfonctionnement sur le forfait 4 heures vendu aux caisses automatiques. Le probl\u00e8me a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9gl\u00e9. Afin de cl\u00f4ture ce dossier, nous vous remboursons la somme de 10\u20ac.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je suis teigneux \u2026 professionnel du marketing au fait de la l\u00e9gislation \u2026 et accessoirement, parle couramment fran\u00e7ais&nbsp;; or plus d\u2019un touriste sur deux dans la vall\u00e9e de Chamonix est un \u00e9tranger, et m\u00eame si les automates sont bilingues, tous ne ma\u00eetrisent ni la langue de Shakespeare, ni la r\u00e9glementation fran\u00e7aise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Par ailleurs, quand on est en vacances, on \u00e9vite de se prendre la t\u00eate \u2013 et de perdre un temps pr\u00e9cieux \u2013 pour 3,5 euros \u2026 on verra apr\u00e8s, puis on oublie \u2026 et m\u00eame si on y pense, on butte sur un <em>\u00ab&nbsp;noreply&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>. Je trouve l\u2019attitude de la Compagnie du Mont-Blanc indigne, et franchement, vraiment pas conforme \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9thique du marketing \u2026 pour ne pas \u00e9voquer \u00e0 nouveau les aspects l\u00e9gaux&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il serait temps que de telles pratiques cessent parce que sinon, c\u2019est la mort du marketing&nbsp;: h\u00e9las, les mauvais praticiens ne creusent pas que leur tombe, mais aussi celles de leurs coll\u00e8gues consciencieux&nbsp;!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Peut-\u00eatre aurais-je d\u00fb plut\u00f4t titrer&nbsp;: Le marketing au m\u00e9pris au m\u00e9pris des lois \u2026 car il s\u2019agit bien de \u00e7a&nbsp;! 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