{"id":25862,"date":"2018-12-05T17:11:57","date_gmt":"2018-12-05T17:11:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/?p=25862"},"modified":"2018-12-05T17:12:43","modified_gmt":"2018-12-05T17:12:43","slug":"le-marketing-et-ses-outsiders-le-point-de-vue-de-thomas-ollivier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/le-marketing-et-ses-outsiders-le-point-de-vue-de-thomas-ollivier\/","title":{"rendered":"Le marketing et ses outsiders : le point de vue de Thomas Ollivier"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Avec mes amis du <em>Conseil Scientifique<\/em> de l\u2019<strong>Adetem<\/strong>, nous nous penchons sur le futur de notre profession \u2013 vaste sujet\u00a0! Dans ce cadre, <em>Xavier Charpentier<\/em>, <em>Laurent Ponthou<\/em>, <em>Frank Rosenthal<\/em> et moi-m\u00eame avons initi\u00e9 une r\u00e9flexion sur les <em>\u00ab\u00a0nouveaux entrants\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> \u2026 que selon l\u2019avanc\u00e9e de nos travaux \u2013 et notre humeur \u2013 qualifions de \u00ab\u00a0startups\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0d\u2019outsiders\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Nous avons interrog\u00e9 quelques experts dont je publierai les r\u00e9ponses au fil des prochains jours\u00a0: aujourd\u2019hui, <strong>Thomas Ollivier.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg\"><img data-attachment-id=\"25864\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/le-marketing-et-ses-outsiders-le-point-de-vue-de-thomas-ollivier\/thomas-ollivier\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?fit=529%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"529,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;11&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;davidbordes.com&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 5D Mark III&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1479827717&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;davidbordes.com&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;70&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.011111111111111&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Thomas Ollivier\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?fit=300%2C272&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?fit=529%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25864 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?resize=300%2C272\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?resize=300%2C272&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?resize=480%2C434&amp;ssl=1 480w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?resize=125%2C112&amp;ssl=1 125w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/12\/Thomas-Ollivier.jpg?w=529&amp;ssl=1 529w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>Fran\u00e7ois\u00a0:<\/strong> <em>Pourquoi les startups\/nouveaux acteurs ne respectent-ils pas les r\u00e8gles traditionnelles du marketing ?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Thomas Ollivier\u00a0:<\/strong> La plupart du temps, les fondateurs des startups ont \u00e9t\u00e9 directement confront\u00e9s \u00e0 une frustration (le pain point) ayant d\u00e9clench\u00e9 chez eux l&rsquo;envie et l&rsquo;id\u00e9e d&rsquo;entreprendre, l&rsquo;ambition de cr\u00e9er un service d\u00e9di\u00e9 \u00e0 la r\u00e9solution de cette frustration pour le plus grand nombre, et donc d&rsquo;innover en apportant sur le march\u00e9 quelque chose qui n&rsquo;avait jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 fait avant.<\/p>\n<p>Le c\u0153ur du marketing de cette nouvelle \u00e9conomie est donc davantage celui de la satisfaction des aspirations, individuelles et collectives, que celui de la stricte analyse du march\u00e9 via le mix classique. La notion de valeur cr\u00e9\u00e9e doit donc s&rsquo;analyser \u00e0 partir de cette recherche de satisfaction des aspirations, o\u00f9 le pourquoi dans le choix et la d\u00e9cision de consommer le produit et le service devient aussi important que le comment. Nous avons int\u00e9gr\u00e9 ces enseignements dans les offres et les services cr\u00e9es dans cette strat\u00e9gie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fran\u00e7ois\u00a0:<\/strong> <em>Les startups\/nouveaux acteurs sont-ils des ennemis ou des cibles pour les entreprises traditionnelles ?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Thomas Ollivier\u00a0:<\/strong> En r\u00e9alit\u00e9 ils sont le plus souvent partenaires. Les nouveaux march\u00e9s sont des march\u00e9s d&rsquo;\u00e9cosyst\u00e8mes et d&rsquo;alliance, o\u00f9 les th\u00e9ories de strat\u00e9gie classiques (Porter) doivent \u00eatre adapt\u00e9es et repens\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p>A la MAIF, notre strat\u00e9gie de transformation par l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie collaborative et les nouveaux usages nous a permis de mettre en \u0153uvre une r\u00e9elle strat\u00e9gie d&rsquo;hybridation pour repenser nos offres et nos services via et avec nos partenaires. Cette d\u00e9marche a contribu\u00e9 \u00e0 faire de la MAIF une entreprise \u00e9tendue, capable de se projeter et concevoir sa cr\u00e9ation de valeurs par, avec et pour des partenaires.\u00a0 Le lancement de notre dispositif Maif Start Up Club et la cr\u00e9ation d&rsquo;une \u00e9quipe d\u00e9di\u00e9e au D\u00e9veloppement et aux Partenariats B2B, dans la suite de ce nous avons fait sur l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie collaborative et les pratiques \u00e9mergente en t\u00e9moigne.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai la conviction que les mod\u00e8les \u00e9conomiques de demain seront ceux qui s&rsquo;int\u00e8grent et qui concourent \u00e0 des mod\u00e8les de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 soutenable. C&rsquo;est une voie qui engage \u00e0 concevoir notre apport de valeur dans sa globalit\u00e9, en m\u00ealant approche B2C, B2B et B2B2C.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fran\u00e7ois\u00a0: <\/strong><em>Finalement, de tout ce bouleversement du paysage \u00e9conomique :<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Le consommateur y trouve-t-il son compte ?<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Thomas Ollivier\u00a0:<\/strong> A terme oui, car derri\u00e8re la recherche de l&rsquo;exp\u00e9rience ultime, c&rsquo;est bien la correspondance entre l&rsquo;attente, le besoin, et l&rsquo;aspiration qui permet de trouver un mod\u00e8le alliant performance \u00e9conomique et durabilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Le citoyen y trouve-t-il son compte ?<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Si le consommateur y trouve son compte d\u2019un point de vue \u00e9conomique ET soutenabilit\u00e9, c\u2019est clair.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Avec mes amis du Conseil Scientifique de l\u2019Adetem, nous nous penchons sur le futur de notre profession \u2013 vaste sujet\u00a0! 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