{"id":24726,"date":"2007-04-15T18:25:00","date_gmt":"2007-04-15T18:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marketingisdead.blogspirit.com\/archive\/2007\/04\/15\/citizen-insight-une-soir\u00e9e-au-gibus.html"},"modified":"2007-04-15T18:25:00","modified_gmt":"2007-04-15T18:25:00","slug":"citizen-insight-une-soiree-au-gibus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/citizen-insight-une-soiree-au-gibus\/","title":{"rendered":"Citizen Insight : une soir\u00e9e au Gibus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><!--[endif]--><\/span><img src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marketingisdead.blogspirit.com\/images\/thumb_manson.jpg?w=1060\" alt=\"medium_manson.jpg\" style=\"border-width: 0pt; margin: 0.2em 1.4em 0.7em 0pt; float: left\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Que sera demain le monde l\u2019industrie musicale \u2013 non, le monde de la musique, car il n\u2019est pas s\u00fbr qu\u2019il demeure une industrie\u2026 et d\u2019ailleurs, pour bon nombre d\u2019artistes, il est et sera jamais qu\u2019artisanat&nbsp;!<\/span> <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Aujourd\u2019hui la pol\u00e9mique fait rage entre les opposants et d\u00e9fenseurs d\u2019une musique libre de droits, largement diffus\u00e9e sur le Net, versus la protection des fichiers musicaux via des syst\u00e8mes de plus en plus sophistiqu\u00e9s de gestion num\u00e9rique des droits, ou DRM&nbsp;:<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Digital Rights Management<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">D\u2019un c\u00f4t\u00e9 les majors de l\u2019\u00e9dition musicale, et quelques distributeurs, qui vouent aux g\u00e9monies les r\u00e9seaux de P2P et les jeunes qui t\u00e9l\u00e9chargent sans vergogne des millions de fichiers mp3, spoliant ainsi de malheureux artistes sans d\u00e9fense&nbsp;: au premier rang, coude \u00e0 coude\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u2026 <i>Pascal N\u00e8gre<\/i>, pr\u00e9sident d\u2019<i>Universal Music France<\/i>&nbsp;: <i>\u00ab&nbsp;J\u2019aimerais bien que les pouvoirs publics nous laissent le temps de mettre en place des syst\u00e8mes de protection [\u2026] . Qu\u2019on nous fiche la paix, qu\u2019on nous laisse les installer&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i>.<sup>1<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u2026 et <i>Steve Jobs<\/i>, pr\u00e9sident d&rsquo;<i>Apple<\/i> selon un loi favorisant l\u2019interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 des fichiers musicaux ferait <i>\u00ab&nbsp;s&rsquo;effondrer les ventes de musique en ligne juste au moment ou les alternatives l\u00e9gales commen\u00e7aient \u00e0 s\u00e9duire les clients&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i>&nbsp;; et de parler de <i>\u00ab&nbsp;piratage sponsoris\u00e9 par l&rsquo;Etat&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/i><sup>2<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">De l\u2019autre, 8, 10, 15 millions de jeunes \u2013 et de moins jeunes \u2013 abonn\u00e9s \u00e0 <i>eMule<\/i>, <i>Gnutella<\/i> et autres <i>KaZaA<\/i>\u2026 sans oublier les petits \u2013 mais prometteurs \u2013 derniers&nbsp;: <i>BitTorrent<\/i> et ses cousins ! Sans oublier ceux qui, sans m\u00eame se connecter au Net, se contentent d\u2019un rapide<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">drag and drop<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">pour r\u00e9cup\u00e9rer en un instant quelques gigaoctets sur le disque dur de leurs copains.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Au milieu les ind\u00e9pendants qui, sans bien \u00e9videmment l\u00e9gitimer le P2P, pr\u00e9sentent un discours plus mod\u00e9r\u00e9, <i>Patrick Zelnik<\/i>, pr\u00e9sident de <i>Na\u00efve<\/i>, allant jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00f4ner la discussion avec ses op\u00e9rateurs, et soulignant la responsabilit\u00e9 des majors&nbsp;: <i>\u00ab&nbsp;Le premier danger pour l&rsquo;industrie n&rsquo;est pas la piraterie mais l&rsquo;uniformit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;offre&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i>.<sup>3<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Et d\u2019autres distributeurs, comme la Fnac, qui d\u00e9noncent toutes les atteintes \u00e0 l\u2019interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 \u2013 la possibilit\u00e9 donn\u00e9e \u00e0 tout un chacun d\u2019\u00e9couter la musique qu\u2019il ach\u00e8te sur le lecteur de son choix, et non n\u00e9cessairement un baladeur sp\u00e9cifique comme dans le syst\u00e8me <i>iPod + iTunes<\/i>&nbsp;:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u00ab&nbsp;Pour une interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9, la Fnac encourage les utilisateurs \u00e0 graver des CD avec les morceaux t\u00e9l\u00e9charg\u00e9s puis les encoder en mp3 afin que tous les lecteurs num\u00e9riques puissent les lire. Des affiches dans les Fnac et une page sur le site explique d&rsquo;ailleurs la proc\u00e9dure, assez \u00e9tonnant quand on sait que cela fait sauter la protection DRM&nbsp;\u00bb<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">.<sup>4<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Les positions ne sont pas bloqu\u00e9es et les derni\u00e8res semaines ont connu de redoutables retournements de situation \u2013 pour ne pas dire de veste&nbsp;\u2013 avec <i>Steve Job<\/i> acceptant de vendre sans verrou aucun l\u2019int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 du catalogue de la maison de disque <i>EMI<\/i>&nbsp;!<sup>5<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Et les artistes dans tous \u00e7a&nbsp;? Il y a ceux qui sont visc\u00e9ralement oppos\u00e9s \u00e0 toute l\u00e9galisation du P2P, notamment dans le cadre d\u2019une licence globale, de <i>Johnny Hallyday<\/i>&nbsp;: <i>\u00ab&nbsp;L\u00e9galiser le t\u00e9l\u00e9chargement de la musique presque gratuitement, c&rsquo;est tuer notre travail&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i>, \u00e0 <i>Maxime Le Forestier<\/i>&nbsp;: <i>\u00ab&nbsp;C&rsquo;est un recul par rapport \u00e0 Beaumarchais&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/i><sup>6<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Et puis il y a <i>David Bowie<\/i> qui d\u00e9clarait lors de la sortie de son album <i>Reality<\/i> : <i>\u00ab J\u2019imagine que la musique changera pareillement dans son essence et sa fonction. Aussi accessible que l\u2019eau et l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9, il ne sera plus indispensable de payer pour l\u2019avoir et elle ne sera plus le bien exclusif de quiconque. Et l\u2019originalit\u00e9 des artistes ne se fondera plus que sur le spectacle \u00bb.<\/i><sup>7<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Mais le futur de la musique et de l\u2019\u00e9dition musicale ne saurait se r\u00e9sumer \u00e0 une bagarre juridique et financi\u00e8re entre op\u00e9rateurs mondiaux&nbsp;: d\u00e9j\u00e0, il y a eu les pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents des<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Artic Monkeys<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">ou<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Clap Your Hands Say Yeah<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">qui se sont hiss\u00e9s au sommet des<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">charts<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">simplement apr\u00e8s avoir mis plusieurs de leurs en t\u00e9l\u00e9chargement gratuit sur le Net.<sup>8<\/sup> <span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Mais pour r\u00e9ellement appr\u00e9hender le futur de la musique, il convient avant tout d\u2019appliquer une d\u00e9marche curieuse\u2026 et d\u2019aller l\u00e0 o\u00f9 elle se cr\u00e9e, de regarder autour de soi, \u00e9couter. Une d\u00e9marche de type <i>Citizen Insight<\/i> \u2013d\u2019immersion totale\u2026 sans a priori, sans contraintes. Aller au devant des artistes\u2026 pas des <i>Johnny<\/i>, <i>Maxime<\/i> et autres <i>David<\/i>&nbsp;: de ceux qui n\u2019ont pas encore press\u00e9 d\u2019album, se d\u00e9brouillent par eux-m\u00eames, sans maison de disque.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Il y a des tas d\u2019endroits \u00e0 Paris o\u00f9 passent de tels artistes&nbsp;: g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement, les marketers d\u00e9couvrent ce qui se passe dans de tels lieux <i>\u00ab&nbsp;branch\u00e9s&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i> en parcourant des rapports de tendance, des \u00e9tudes o\u00f9 quelques trends setters d\u00e9voilent les lieux \u00e9tranges d\u2019une vie nocturne n\u00e9cessairement passionnante mais marginale.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Un conseil&nbsp;: ne vous contentez plus de lire le<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">reporting<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u2013 certes tr\u00e8s riche \u2013 des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9tudes&nbsp;! Vivez&nbsp;: pratiquez une d\u00e9marche de type <i>Citizen Insight<\/i> et d\u00e9couvrez la <i>\u00ab&nbsp;vraie vie&nbsp;\u00bb<\/i>\u2026 si, si, elle existe&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Evidemment la vraie vie n\u00e9cessite parfois de passer le p\u00e9riph\u00e9rique \u2013 et de faire la queue dans un <i>Lidl<\/i> de <i>Montreuil<\/i>&nbsp;; pour la musique, si vous ne vous sentez pas l\u2019\u00e2me aventureuse des concerts rap du 93, allez faire un tout par exemple au <i>Gibus<\/i>, pr\u00e8s de la place de la <i>R\u00e9publique<\/i>.<sup>9<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">R\u00e9guli\u00e8rement, <i>Emergenza<\/i> y organise des concours&nbsp;: des artistes plus ou moins d\u00e9butants ont 30 minutes pour convaincre\u2026 avant le vote \u00e0 main lev\u00e9e&nbsp;: les vainqueurs se produiront ensuite au<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">New Morning<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">. Le <i>Gibus<\/i> n\u2019est que la premi\u00e8re des 5 \u00e9tapes d\u2019un long parcours du combattant qui conduira les meilleurs \u00e0 la grande finale internationale de <i>Rothenburg<\/i>, un petit village allemand.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u00ab&nbsp;Emergenza est n\u00e9 il y a quinze ans, en Europe, d&rsquo;un groupe de musiciens passionn\u00e9s ayant besoin de s&rsquo;exprimer&nbsp;\u00bb<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">, nous apprend son site Internet<sup>10&nbsp;<\/sup>: on est loin de la<\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Star Academy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">&nbsp;! Pas de paillettes, seulement la fi\u00e8vre de caves enfi\u00e9vr\u00e9es comme le <i>Gibus<\/i> et la passion des milliers d\u2019artistes&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Jeudi 12 Avril, 8 groupes concouraient pour trois places au <i>New<\/i><\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Morning<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u2013 la seconde \u00e9tape&nbsp;: voici le site des 3 gagnants&nbsp;:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Licite Fondation&nbsp;: <a href=\"http:\/\/perso.numericable.fr\/%7Enathduma\/index.htm\">http:\/\/perso.numericable.fr\/~nathduma\/index.htm<\/a>, avec 96 mains lev\u00e9es !<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Oniromancy&nbsp;:<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oniromancy.com\/\">www.oniromancy.com<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">, 85 votes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Naissance 21&nbsp;: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.naissance21.fr.tc\/\">http:\/\/www.naissance21.fr.tc\/<\/a>, 76 votes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Et ces artistes, que pensent-ils de la musique en France, aujourd\u2019hui\u2026 et demain&nbsp;? Enfin de la musique pop, celle que j\u2019aime bien, moi aussi&nbsp;? A la fin du concert, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 leur demander leur mail\u2026 je vous tiendrai au courant.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">En attendant, n\u2019h\u00e9sitez pas \u00e0 aller les \u00e9couter au <i>New<\/i><\/span> <i><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" lang=\"EN-US\">Morning<\/span><\/i> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">\u2013 ou ailleurs&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Et notez enfin que le 5 Juin, <i>Marilyn Manson<\/i> sera \u00e0 <i>Bercy<\/i>&nbsp;; et le 11 Juin, les <i>White Stripes<\/i> seront au <i>Z\u00e9nith<\/i>. Le printemps s\u2019annonce chaud&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">1<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/bigbrotherawards.eu.org\/\">http:\/\/bigbrotherawards.eu.org<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">2<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemondeinformatique.fr\/\">http:\/\/www.lemondeinformatique.fr<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">3<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.chorus-chanson.fr\/\">http:\/\/www.chorus-chanson.fr<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">4<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.presence-pc.com\/\">http:\/\/www.presence-pc.com<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">5<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Voir note du <i>04.04.2007.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">6<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.volubilis.net\/\">http:\/\/www.volubilis.net<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">7<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/xn--libration-d4a.fr\/\">http:\/\/lib\u00e9ration.fr<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">8<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">Voir note du <i>13.05.2006<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">9<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">18 rue du Faubourg du Temple<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\">10<\/span><\/sup> <span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.emergenza.net\/fra\/default.asp\">http:\/\/www.emergenza.net\/fra\/default.asp<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 6pt 0cm 0.0001pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->&nbsp;<!--[endif]--><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Que sera demain le monde l\u2019industrie musicale \u2013 non, le monde de la musique, car il n\u2019est pas s\u00fbr qu\u2019il demeure une industrie\u2026 et d\u2019ailleurs, pour bon nombre d\u2019artistes, il est et sera jamais qu\u2019artisanat&nbsp;! 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