{"id":24709,"date":"2013-09-01T06:25:00","date_gmt":"2013-09-01T06:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marketingisdead.blogspirit.com\/archive\/2013\/07\/18\/de-l-utilite-du-marketing-dans-les-startups-2971920.html"},"modified":"2013-09-01T06:25:00","modified_gmt":"2013-09-01T06:25:00","slug":"de-lutilite-du-marketing-dans-les-startups","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/de-lutilite-du-marketing-dans-les-startups\/","title":{"rendered":"De l\u2019utilit\u00e9 du marketing dans les startups"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\"><em><img id=\"media-749169\" style=\"float: left; margin: 0.2em 1.4em 0.7em 0;\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marketingisdead.blogspirit.com\/media\/00\/00\/929503635.png?w=1060\" alt=\"MarketingStartups.png\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/>Article publi\u00e9 pendant les vacances dans <a href=\"http:\/\/www.business-angel-france.com\/de-lutilite-du-marketing-dans-les-startups\">Business Angel France<\/a>.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Il y a&nbsp;un an, Olivier Aizac, le fondateur du <a title=\"Le bon coin\" href=\"http:\/\/www.leboncoin.fr\">Bon Coin<\/a> intervenait \u00e0 la Nuit du Marketing organis\u00e9e par <a title=\"Adetem\" href=\"http:\/\/www.adetem.org\">l\u2019Adetem<\/a>&nbsp;: devant un plateau de plusieurs centaines de marketers, il r\u00e9v\u00e9lait que le marketing n\u2019avait jamais constitu\u00e9 une pr\u00e9occupation pour lui. En 2012, le Bon Coin rivalisait d\u00e9j\u00e0 avec eBay en France \u2026 et n\u2019\u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 plus une startup;&nbsp;pourtant, le site n\u2019avait que 6 ans au compteur, ce qui n\u2019est pas si vieux. En d\u2019autres termes, le Bon Coin avait r\u00e9alis\u00e9 le r\u00eave de toute startup&nbsp;: devenir en quelques ann\u00e9es un grand parmi les grands, comme Google, Facebook ou plus r\u00e9cemment, AirBnB.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">En s\u2019exprimant ainsi, Olivier Aizac retra\u00e7ait le parcours mythique \u2013 car on peut r\u00e9ellement parler de mythe \u2013 de la startup d\u2019aujourd\u2019hui&nbsp;: une bonne id\u00e9e, une solide dose de culot \u2026 et surtout, pas de contraintes \u2013 et donc pas de marketing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Google, le Bon Coin&nbsp;: on parle volontiers des startups qui cr\u00e8vent l\u2019\u00e9cran \u2026 mais on oublie que le cimeti\u00e8re des startups qui se sont crash\u00e9es peu apr\u00e8s le d\u00e9collage est certainement nettement plus fourni&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Par ailleurs, quand Olivier Aizac, un peu plus tard dans la soir\u00e9e, nous expliquait qu\u2019aux tous d\u00e9buts du site, il appelait lui-m\u00eame les clients qui avaient mal r\u00e9dig\u00e9 leurs petites annonces pour les aider \u00e0 mieux vendre, il avouait simplement \u2026 faire du CRM, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire du marketing&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Mais il demeure de bon ton de ne pas faire de marketing&nbsp;: pour beaucoup, cela pr\u00e9serve l\u2019aura du cr\u00e9ateur de g\u00e9nie. Moyennant quoi, ils perp\u00e9tuent l\u2019antienne que le marketing ne sert \u00e0 rien et que seule compte l\u2019id\u00e9e g\u00e9niale \u2026 qui, en plus, est la leur. Moyennant quoi, ils ne se soucient du consommateur que comme d\u2019une guigne \u2013 intelligent s\u2019il ach\u00e8te leur produit ou leur service ou demeur\u00e9 s\u2019il ne le fait pas. Le seul probl\u00e8me, c\u2019est que le consommateur a toujours raison tout simplement parce que c\u2019est lui qui finance \u2013 sur le long terme \u2013 la startup&nbsp;: certes, pour le court terme, il y a les investisseurs financiers, mais ces derniers se lassent souvent tr\u00e8s vite, surtout quand tardent les r\u00e9sultats.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">En 2005, de brillants ing\u00e9nieurs lan\u00e7aient LE terminal Internet intelligent du futur&nbsp;: un lapin WiFi nomm\u00e9 <a title=\"Nabaztag\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.fr\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;frm=1&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CC8QFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNabaztag&amp;ei=iEblUdjLCYW6hAfzTA&amp;usg=AFQjCNGfQRh35LNgvCGNTBfyhcZp77gbxQ&amp;sig2=hBpw8IrYVmkSe9hxNgWqig\">Nabaztag<\/a>. Vous n\u2019en avez jamais entendu parl\u00e9&nbsp;? Normal, le petit animal n\u2019a jamais s\u00e9duit que quelques geeks \u2013 dont ses cr\u00e9ateurs. H\u00e9las les internautes l\u2019ont massivement snob\u00e9. Qui s\u2019est montr\u00e9 stupide, en fait ?&nbsp;Les ing\u00e9nieurs qui ont con\u00e7u le produit ou les consommateurs qui ne l\u2019ont pas achet\u00e9&nbsp;?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Le marketing aurait enseign\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9couter un peu les avis des consommateurs (pas seulement, mais un peu \u2026)&nbsp;; mais le marketing ne sert \u00e0 rien.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Avec le d\u00e9veloppement \u2013 je devrais dire l\u2019explosion \u2013 de la consommation collaborative, on voit \u00e9merger de ci, de l\u00e0, des sites qui ressemblent \u00e9trangement \u00e0 ceux qui ont superbement r\u00e9ussi ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es&nbsp;: le marketing dirait de ne pas tenter de recopier \u00e0 l\u2019identique un mod\u00e8le existant, si efficace soit-il&nbsp;; mais le marketing ne sert \u00e0 rien.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Aujourd\u2019hui, nombreuses sont les startups qui se lancent, la fleur au fusil et une bonne id\u00e9e dans la t\u00eate&nbsp;: ils refont le coup du marketing de l\u2019offre \u2013 du marketing d\u2019avant la 1<sup>\u00e8re<\/sup> Guerre Mondiale, quand il n\u2019y avait pas vraiment besoin de marketing et que l\u2019on pouvait se passer de l\u2019avis des consommateurs. Mais aujourd\u2019hui Henri Ford est d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 et l\u2019industrie automobile souffre de ne pas savoir s\u2019adapter \u00e0 un consommateur qui change sans cesse. Le probl\u00e8me, c\u2019est que bien souvent, <strong>les patrons de startup souffrent d\u2019un certain manque d\u2019humilit\u00e9&nbsp;<\/strong>: ne leur demandons pas de moins croire \u00e0 leurs id\u00e9es, conseillons-leur simplement de croire aussi \u00e0 ce qu\u2019en pensent \u2013 de leurs id\u00e9es \u2013 leurs clients potentiels.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: small;\">Et peut-\u00eatre serait-ce aussi le r\u00f4le des business angels, qui poss\u00e8dent un peu plus de recul et d\u2019exp\u00e9rience, que ne pas leur apporter que des sous, mais aussi un peu de m\u00e9thode \u2026 et de marketing&nbsp;!<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Article publi\u00e9 pendant les vacances dans Business Angel France. 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