{"id":25763,"date":"2018-06-29T10:14:33","date_gmt":"2018-06-29T10:14:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/?p=25763"},"modified":"2018-06-29T10:14:33","modified_gmt":"2018-06-29T10:14:33","slug":"empruntant-ou-residant-la-sncf-et-la-region-idf-vous-roulent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/empruntant-ou-residant-la-sncf-et-la-region-idf-vous-roulent\/","title":{"rendered":"Empruntant\u00a0 ou r\u00e9sidant\u00a0: la SNCF et la R\u00e9gion IDF vous roulent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Les pr\u00e9sident(e)s de la R\u00e9gion \u00cele de France et de la SNCF ont claironn\u00e9 que les usagers des lignes touch\u00e9es par les gr\u00e8ves \u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9tition seraient bien \u00e9videmment indemnis\u00e9s\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg\"><img data-attachment-id=\"25764\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/empruntant-ou-residant-la-sncf-et-la-region-idf-vous-roulent\/sncf\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?fit=640%2C485\" data-orig-size=\"640,485\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"SNCF\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?fit=300%2C227\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?fit=640%2C485\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25764 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?resize=300%2C227\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"227\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?resize=300%2C227 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?resize=600%2C455 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2018\/06\/SNCF.jpg?w=640 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>\u00ab\u00a0Val\u00e9rie P\u00e9cresse, pr\u00e9sidente de la R\u00e9gion \u00cele-de-France et de l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 organisatrice des transports \u00cele-de-France Mobilit\u00e9s, a obtenu de la SNCF <strong>un d\u00e9dommagement de 50% du passe Navigo et de la carte Imagine R pour les mois d\u2019avril et de mai<\/strong>, en compensation des lourdes cons\u00e9quences de la gr\u00e8ve SNCF pour les usagers d&rsquo;\u00cele-de-France\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> \u2013 c\u2019est soulign\u00e9 en gras sur le <a href=\"https:\/\/www.iledefrance.fr\/greves-sncf-abonnes-navigo-imagine-r-dedommages\">site de la r\u00e9gion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Evidemment, il y a des restrictions\u00a0: <em>\u00ab\u00a0Cette mesure concerne les clients Navigo Annuel, Navigo Mois, Navigo Solidarit\u00e9 Mois ou Imagine R, empruntant\u00a0 les lignes SNCF Transilien : les lignes\u00a0 L, J, N, U, C, D, R, E, P, T4, H, K, ainsi que la ligne A (sauf entre Charles-De-Gaulle-\u00c9toile et Marne-la-Vall\u00e9e Chessy &#8211; Boissy Saint-L\u00e9ger) et la ligne B (sauf entre Paris Gare du Nord et Robinson \u2013 Saint-R\u00e9my-l\u00e8s-Chevreuse), et \u00e0 l&rsquo;exception des trajets dans Paris intra-muros\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>J\u2019habite Vincennes et j\u2019utilise r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement les lignes concern\u00e9es pour me rendre chez mes clients\u00a0: ai-je droit \u00e0 un petit quelque-chose\u00a0? Pour le savoir, je me rends sur <a href=\"https:\/\/mondedommagement.transilien.com\">mondedommagement.transilien.com<\/a> et rentre mon num\u00e9ro Navigo, ma date de naissance et mon adresse mail \u2026 et la r\u00e9ponse est imm\u00e9diate\u00a0: <em>\u00ab\u00a0Nous sommes au regret de vous indiquer que vous ne pouvez b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier de ce d\u00e9dommagement pour le motif suivant : Ville non \u00e9ligible\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Rien de pr\u00e9vu pour contester\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Premi\u00e8re remarque\u00a0: o\u00f9 renseigne-t-on le lieu de travail\u00a0? Ce n\u2019est pas parce que j\u2019habite Vincennes que je n\u2019emprunte pas tous les jours les <em>\u00ab\u00a0lignes L, J, N, U, C, D, R, E, P, T4, H, K \u2026\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>Deuxi\u00e8me remarque\u00a0: peut-\u00eatre la SNCF dispose-t-elle d\u2019autres informations sur moi \u2026 alors que j\u2019ai achet\u00e9 mon <em>Navigo<\/em> aupr\u00e8s de la RATP\u00a0? En pleine mont\u00e9e en puissance du RGPD, c\u2019est inqui\u00e9tant.<\/p>\n<p>En fait, tout aussi honn\u00eate qu\u2019un Facebook, la SNCF glisse les restrictions qui contredisent le site de la R\u00e9gion en tout petit dans les \u2026 <em>\u00ab\u00a0Conditions G\u00e9n\u00e9rales d\u2019Utilisation de DEDOMMAGEMENT\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>\u00a0: vous avez bien lu\u00a0: dans les CGU\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Cette mesure s\u2019adresse aux abonn\u00e9s r\u00e9sidant dans une commune desservie par les lignes SNCF Transilien. Paris et les communes desservies par les lignes RATP, RER A Est* et RER B Sud*, ne sont pas \u00e9ligibles \u00e0 ce d\u00e9dommagement\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Donc m\u00eame si vous utilisez les <em>\u00ab\u00a0lignes L, J, N, U, C, D, R, E, P, T4, H, K \u2026\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0<\/em>pour vous rendre au travail tr\u00e8s loin en banlieue \u2026 allez vous faire voir ailleurs\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>D\u2019un site \u00e0 l\u2019autre <em>\u00ab\u00a0empruntant\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> est devenu <em>\u00ab\u00a0r\u00e9sidant\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>\u00a0: cherchez l\u2019erreur\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Et si vous avez d\u00e9m\u00e9nag\u00e9 apr\u00e8s avoir achet\u00e9 votre <em>Navigo<\/em> \u00e0 Vincennes\u00a0? Allez vous faire voir ailleurs \u00e9galement, rien n\u2019est pr\u00e9vu pour pr\u00e9ciser votre adresse\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>P2 (= P\u00e9cresse + P\u00e9py) se moqueraient franchement de nous\u00a0! C\u2019est ce que j\u2019aurais le plus tendance \u00e0 croire\u00a0!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les pr\u00e9sident(e)s de la R\u00e9gion \u00cele de France et de la SNCF ont claironn\u00e9 que les usagers des lignes touch\u00e9es par les gr\u00e8ves \u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9tition seraient bien \u00e9videmment indemnis\u00e9s\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Val\u00e9rie P\u00e9cresse, pr\u00e9sidente de la R\u00e9gion \u00cele-de-France et de l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 organisatrice des transports \u00cele-de-France Mobilit\u00e9s, a&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":25764,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":{"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[154],"tags":[345,346,347],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v18.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Empruntant\u00a0 ou r\u00e9sidant\u00a0: la SNCF et la R\u00e9gion IDF vous roulent - 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