{"id":25351,"date":"2017-03-14T13:00:54","date_gmt":"2017-03-14T13:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/?p=25351"},"modified":"2017-03-14T13:00:54","modified_gmt":"2017-03-14T13:00:54","slug":"entrons-lere-mensonge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/entrons-lere-mensonge\/","title":{"rendered":"Nous entrons dans l\u2019\u00e8re du mensonge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>En une autre \u00e8re \u2013 pensez, en 2005\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>En une autre \u00e8re, 2005 donc, Carlo Revelli et Jo\u00ebl de Rosnay lan\u00e7aient Agoravox et inventaient le journalisme citoyen\u00a0: vaste et belle \u00ab\u00a0utopie\u00a0\u00bb, o\u00f9 chacun de nous pouvait cumuler les fonctions de lecteur et de r\u00e9dacteur\u00a0; et au d\u00e9but, \u00e7a marchait plut\u00f4t bien, on s\u2019y retrouvait entre gens de bonne compagnie, entre doux r\u00eaveurs du Web 2.0 qui jetaient les bases d\u2019un monde rendu meilleur par son horizontalit\u00e9. Haro sur les journalistes, incapables de rivaliser avec la puissance de l\u2019intelligence collective et vive donc le journalisme citoyen.<\/p>\n<p>Un peu plus tard, l\u2019atterrissage d\u2019une avion sur l\u2019Hudson \u2013 pour ceux qui ont oubli\u00e9 l\u2019histoire, c\u2019est celle de Sully dans le film de Clint Eastwood \u2013 sonnait d\u00e9finitivement le glas d\u2019une profession maudite\u00a0: un simple passager de ferry avait annonc\u00e9 l\u2019\u00e9v\u00e8nement au monde entier, bien avant les agences de presse, juste avec un Tweet et une photo, devenus depuis historiques.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg\"><img data-attachment-id=\"25352\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/entrons-lere-mensonge\/menteur\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?fit=336%2C346\" data-orig-size=\"336,346\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Menteur\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?fit=291%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?fit=336%2C346\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25352 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?resize=291%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?resize=291%2C300 291w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/consumerinsight.eu\/marketingisdead\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/03\/Menteur.jpg?w=336 336w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 291px) 100vw, 291px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>Depuis, Agoravox est devenu le repaire un peu malodorant des r\u00e9visionnistes et autre n\u00e9gationnistes proches des plus sinistres\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Pour les seniors, qui ne lisaient pas la presse en ligne, il y avait les chaines de mails, ces mails que plein de gens d\u2019un certain \u00e2ge re\u00e7oivent et renvoient \u00e0 plein d\u2019autres pour conserver l\u2019illusion qu\u2019ils gardent un\u00a0 pied dans le digital\u00a0; des mails o\u00f9 on trouve de tout\u00a0: du cul, des histoires dr\u00f4les, des photos magnifiques \u2026 et les m\u00eames papiers ignobles que ceux que j\u2019\u00e9voquaient plus haut.<\/p>\n<p>Et bien s\u00fbr, comme on rentre dans le conspirationisme le plus glauque, ces mails s\u2019accompagnant de mentions telles\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Faites circulez \u00e0 tous ceux qui \u2026\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0Important, v\u00e9rit\u00e9 cach\u00e9e \u2026\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Mais bon, il n\u2019y a pas que les id\u00e9alistes du Web 2.0 et les seniors dans la vie\u00a0! Il y a aussi tous ceux qui, jeunes ou moins jeunes, r\u00e9seautent sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux, Facebook en t\u00eate\u00a0: et l\u00e0, c\u2019est le Jackpot\u00a0! La b\u00eate immonde a investi le r\u00e9seau social le plus puissant du monde, avec les m\u00eames techniques que pour Agoravox ou les mails destin\u00e9s aux seniors\u00a0: on distille des propos un peu, beaucoup, \u00e0 la folie fallacieux, mensongers, trompeurs et les gens y croient d\u2019autant plus qu\u2019ils ont l\u2019impression d\u2019acc\u00e9der \u00e0 une v\u00e9rit\u00e9 cach\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>On cr\u00e9e des rumeurs\u00a0que bien \u00e9videmment personne ne peut nier\u00a0: c\u2019est m\u00eame l\u00e0 que r\u00e9side la puissance des rumeurs\u00a0: les r\u00e9futer les rend encore plus cr\u00e9dibles aux yeux des adeptes de la th\u00e9orie du complot \u2026 mais aussi de la grande foule des cr\u00e9dules\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Calomniez, calomniez, il en restera toujours quelque chose\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, proclamait Joseph Goebbels\u00a0: h\u00e9las, ses disciples pullulent aujourd\u2019hui en France.<\/p>\n<p>Heureusement existent des sites comme <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hoaxbuster.com\/\">Hoaxbuster.com<\/a> pour d\u00e9noncer toutes les fausses informations, et des \u00e9missions comme D\u00e9sintox, fruit d\u2019un partenariat Arte \/ Lib\u00e9ration.<\/p>\n<p>Mais ne serait-ce pas avant tout \u00e0 Facebook, qui gagne juste quelques milliards en laissant publier des tas de contre-v\u00e9rit\u00e9s, de faire le job\u00a0: mais social m\u00e9dia pr\u00e9f\u00e8re se retrancher derri\u00e8re son statut plateforme pour laisser ses utilisateurs s\u2019en occuper \u00e0 sa place \u2026 \u00e9videmment sans garantie de la moindre cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Exemple\u00a0: RT France, plus de 300\u00a0000 fans, publie r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement des \u00ab\u00a0fakes news\u00a0\u00bb sur sa page Facebook\u00a0; imaginez que vous veniez avec vos petits doigts porter la contradiction, vous passerez imm\u00e9diatement pour un supp\u00f4t des partis \u00e9tablis ou d\u2019une quelconque administration cherchant \u00e0 b\u00e2illonner la presse libre \u2026 m\u00eame si savez qu\u2019elle n\u2019est qu\u2019aux ordres du Kremlin\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Evidemment, si d\u00e8s qu\u2019il y a suspicion de mensonges, Facebook effectuait quelques recherches \u2013 comme <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hoaxbuster.com\/\">Hoaxbuster.com<\/a> ou D\u00e9sintox \u2013 et d\u00e9non\u00e7ait les fausses informations, sa cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9 serait plus forte \u2026 mais il perdrait peut-\u00eatre des internautes et cela lui co\u00fbterait des sous\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>Moralit\u00e9, il faut que les journalistes se collent \u00e0 la t\u00e2che, et effectuent finalement le r\u00f4le de \u2026 journalistes\u00a0; et qu\u2019ils puissent \u00e9galement en vivre\u00a0: en d\u2019autres termes, une presse libre et payante est n\u00e9cessaire au salut de notre d\u00e9mocratie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7a peut para\u00eetre pompeux, dit ainsi, mais c\u2019est n\u00e9cessaire, face \u00e0 des plateformes de m\u00e9dias sociaux qui s\u2019en mettent plein les poches mais refusent d\u2019assumer leurs responsabilit\u00e9s.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En une autre \u00e8re \u2013 pensez, en 2005\u00a0! 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